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The seeker sensitive manual: What they did (not) teach you in seminary.

Imagine a book authored by James Emery  White (an intelligent spokesman for many of the seeker movement’s ideas) and (not to be confused with the Reformed Christian apologist James R. White) he is also the founding and senior pastor of Mecklenburg Community Church, a megachurch in Charlotte. The same book is endorsed by people like Geoff Surratt from Saddleback, Jim Mellado from the Willow Creek Association, and Marshall Shelley from Leadership Journal. The Foreword is by (wait for it, yup) Perry Noble and includes blurbs from Bill Hybels and Rick Warren.

James Emery White’s latest book, What They Didn’t Teach You in Seminary: 25 Lessons for Successful Ministry in Your Church (Baker 2011) will teach you a couple of therapeutic moralistic things to do to enhance your church experience but a review of it by Kevin DeYoung succinctly noted that:

1. Theology felt strangely irrelevant throughout the book. It would not be at all fair to say White or other seeker church leaders don’t care about theology or that they don’t affirm orthodox theology. They do, on both accounts. But it feels assumed at best and a necessary nuisance at worst. In his introduction Noble explains that he dropped out of seminary because he didn’t want to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars on something that didn’t really equip him for ministry in the real world. No one cared about TULIP, Noble observes, or Christ’s impeccability for that matter, or fancy theological words or lectures on church history. I don’t doubt that many people in many churches don’t give a rip about theological terms or concepts. But just because they don’t doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. Maybe our people fall asleep when we wax on about justification or imputation because we are frankly bored ourselves. Maybe we haven’t been gripped by the great doctrines of the faith. Maybe we haven’t done the spade work in the text and in our hearts to see how the doctrine of Trinity or the incarnation or limited atonement is massively relevant.

I sometimes wonder if seeker church pastors have heard theology presented so badly and seen it applied to real life so poorly that they’ve concluded that theology is the problem. But if you want to help people grow in their relationship with Christ, or make a difference in their communities, or have better marriages, or experience life change, or do anything else that these pastors want to see happen, don’t skip over theology. That produces shallow Christians with soft spines and small hearts. Press through the theology and see it explode in people’s lives with joy and unmistakable relevance.

2. I wish seeker church leaders would drink from deeper theological wells. White quotes from C.S. Lewis once, Tertullian once, and Cornelius Plantinga once, but the writers that clearly shape his thinking on ministry are people like Jim Collins, Stephen Covey, and Malcom Gladwell. No doubt, we can learn things from business books and pop psychology, but one has to be concerned when the lessons for church ministry come almost exclusively from the latest leadership best sellers. Even in a book about lessons you didn’t learn in seminary, shouldn’t there be more explicit biblical reflection and more conversation with men like Calvin, Baxter, and Gregory as opposed to Seth Godin?

In the chapter “Hills to Die On” White claims that most churches in our cities have more or less the same theology. The real difference is on ministry values. This conviction, more than anything, may explain the gulf between YRR and the seeker movement. One side thinks theology is to die for and in desperate need of repair. The other side thinks the theology stuff, while very important, is pretty well established in most churches. They worry that focusing much more on theological precision and knowledge may end up dividing us or pushing more people away from the church.

3. There is little thought on how theological convictions should influence our methodological practices. One of the guiding principles of this book, and the whole seeker movement, is that while the message of the gospel doesn’t change, the method of communicating the gospel must change (82). I have no problem with practices and programs changing. I am all for having a 21st century ministry that doesn’t sound like it was transplanted from the 16th century. Contextualization happens, whether we try to do it or not. Methods can change. The problem with the church growth mentality is that one rarely considers what happens when methodology changes.

It is naive to think that our messages communicate theology while our methods do nothing of the sort. How we structure our services, how members are cared for, whether we do multi-site, whether we have three services with three different styles, whether we use movie clips in church, whether the preaching is live or recorded or broadcast, whether we use the language of body, member, and witness or the language of corporation, consumer, and product –these things are all theological questions. I’m not saying the Bible speaks clearly on every question. The Bible may give some principles and some latitude on any particular issue. But we shouldn’t approach church ministry assuming that most, if not all, methodological questions are adiaphora on par with the proverbial color of the church carpet.

4. The most surprising chapter was the one entitled “Don’t preach.” To be sure, White believes in teaching, but he says we should communicate instead of preach. Our messages must be relevant, engaging, and practical. The style of the service, including music, media, and the message, must be “culturally current” (112). Granted, he doesn’t want us to sell out the gospel, to skip over the hard parts, or to only give people what they want to hear. Those are stereotypes of seeker churches or megachurch pastors. I believe White wants the gospel taught, but it seems he is uncomfortable with it being heralded. We are told, instead, to communicate the Bible through the door of our listener’s interests–which can be a good strategy except for when the audience doesn’t have the right interests. Good preaching doesn’t just accept existing categories; it creates new ones.

If some traditional evangelicals are naive about their own contextualization, the seeker crowd is often just as shortsighted in its pursuit of all things relevant. What do buzz words like practical, engaging, and relevant actually mean? Is not the gospel of Christ crucified supremely relevant all by itself? Or is “relevant” another way of saying “new” (which may or not be a step in the right direction)? White references Calvin’s “Genevan jigs” as an example of being relevant to the culture. But this misrepresents Calvin’s aims. He hired the best poets of his time so he could reintroduce congregational singing and so that the Psalms would have tunes with fitting majesty and decorum. I’m not at all against new songs–we use lots of them. But Calvin simply did not shape the worship in Geneva to be culturally relevant. He believed in the appropriateness of style as well as substance.

5. I question the seeker movement’s emphasis on numbers. Before saying anything else, let me get all the caveats out in the open: I am not against numbers. I want more people to come to know Christ like they did in Acts. I like it when my church is growing. I know that every number represents a person. I am not against big churches. What I am against is the assumption that numbers are the best, or even one of the most significant, indicators of church health. The church in Jerusalem grew rapidly at first, but then it took slow steady growth over centuries for Europe to be Christianized. More to the point, while Paul frequently prayed for conversion and opportunities to preach the gospel, you never see him concerned over the growth patterns in his churches. He made faithfulness and fidelity aims of his ministry (and this includes reaching out and evangelizing). But he neither assumed church growth nor thought it could be accomplished by the right methodology.

It was odd to read White’s confession about pride over numbers. On the one hand, it was a mark of humility to acknowledge this struggle. On the other hand, it was strange to hear White talk about Outreach magazine’s annual list of the 100 largest churches and the 100 fastest-growing churches as if this is something every pastor thinks about. No doubt, I have pride in other areas, and maybe I’d check the list if my church was 20 times bigger, but this just seemed to be another ecclesiastical planet. I don’t recall ever meeting a pastor for whom the list was important.

Excerpt  from Listening to and Questioning the Seeker Church by Kevin DeYoung

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2 responses to “The seeker sensitive manual: What they did (not) teach you in seminary.

  1. Pingback: The seeker sensitive manual: What they did (not) teach you in seminary. – endtimesprophecyblogs

  2. Addison October 25, 2011 at 13:15

    Just an FYI. As someone who is familiar with White’s writing/teaching, I appreciate De Young’s attenpt at a balanced and generous reading, but he took this particular work of White’s way out of context of his life, teaching, and other writings. Specifically, you should see White’s book “A Mind for God” and “Christ Among the Dragons” which, interestingly, share many of the concerns of this post. White has one foot in the theological/academic world, and one in the church world. Yes, while endorsed by Noble, Mellado and others, he is also supported by such academics as Timothy George, David Dockery and many others. Also, let’s retire the term “seeker church”, please. White himself has a good blog on this at churchandculture.org. It’s a dated term no one really uses anymore – not even Hybels.

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